LAX91LA071

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-28-181 · Ramona, CA · January 10, 1991

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
January 10, 1991, 11:15 local (19:15 UTC)
Place
Ramona, CA
Injuries
1 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Takeoff
Aircraft
N8309HPiper PA-28-181
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report May 7, 1993
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19910110003519A
Case key
27091

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Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain directional control of the airplane during an attempted takeoff. A contributing factor was related to the student's improper use of rudder control.

Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - on ground/waterTakeoff - roll/run
Rudder - improper use ofPilot in commandFactor
Directional control - not maintainedPilot in commandCause
On ground/water encounter with terrain/waterTakeoff - roll/run
Terrain condition - berm

Analysis

The student pilot had successfully made two practice takeoffs and landings on a 150-foot wide by 4,000-foot long runway. During the pilot's third attempted takeoff the airplane veered off the side of the runway and collided with a small hill. The student reported that while rolling for takeoff he had attempted to correct the airplane's course by applying 'more than normal' rudder pressure, but he was not successful. The airplane was examined and its brakes and flight controls were found capable of functioning normally.

Aircraft

Registration
N8309H
Reported as
Piper PA-28-181
Category
Airplane
Serial number
288390014
Engine
Lycoming O-360-A4M, 180 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Operator
Four Winds Aviation
Airport
L39 · Ramona, runway 27, 4,000 × 150 ft, asphalt

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Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
56
Certificate
Student
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Flight hours
83 total · 80 in this make and model · 22 in the last 90 days · 6 in the last 30 days · 1 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
Calm
Visibility
50 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
-0 °F, dew point -0 °F

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.