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NTSB accident investigation · Cessna 172N · Payson, AZ · November 2, 1997

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
November 2, 1997, 08:06 local (15:06 UTC)
Place
Payson, AZ
Injuries
3 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Landing
Aircraft
N6585DCessna 172N
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report April 15, 1999
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19971102031659A
Case key
29991

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Probable cause

The pilot's selection of a downwind direction to land and his failure to compensate for the quartering tailwind condition.

Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - on ground/waterLanding
Weather condition - tailwind
Weather condition - crosswind
Wrong runway - selectedPilot in commandCause
Compensation for wind conditions - inadequatePilot in commandCause
Directional control - not maintainedPilot in command
Go-around - not performedPilot in command
On ground/water collision with objectLanding
Object - tree(s)

Analysis

The pilot stated that he had turned final for runway 24 and noticed he was a little high and hot. He said he compensated for it by lowering the nose and adding 5 additional degrees of flaps. Although the airspeed remained constant at 80 knots, he realized quickly that he was still high and fast so he entered a slip to increase the rate of descent. The pilot stated that he felt he could extend his landing even if he touched down past midpoint and decided not to go-around. He estimated that he hit the ground at 58 to 60 knots when he encountered a strong crosswind from the left, which pushed him off the runway. The aircraft subsequently came to rest against several trees. The airport manager stated that he heard the airplane touch down and 'it sounded very fast' so he looked up and saw the airplane rolling down the runway at a very fast rate of speed. The aircraft then departed the runway and collided with trees. In his written statement, the pilot reported the winds at the airport as 110 degrees at 5 knots. The winds at the closest aviation weather reporting station were 160 degrees at 7 knots.

Factual narrative

On November 2, 1997, at 0806 hours mountain standard time, a Cessna 172, N6585D, collided with trees following a loss of control while landing at the Payson, Arizona, airport. The aircraft sustained substantial damage. The private pilot and his two passengers were not injured. The aircraft was being operated as a personal flight under 14 CFR Part 91. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a flight plan was not filed. The flight originated in Scottsdale, Arizona, at 0720.

The pilot stated that he had turned final for runway 24 at Payson when he noticed he was a "little high and hot." He said he compensated for it by lowering the nose and adding 5 additional degrees of flaps. Although the airspeed remained constant at 80 knots, he realized quickly that he was still high and fast so he entered a slip to increase the rate of descent. The pilot stated that he felt he could extend his landing even if he touched down past midpoint and decided not to go-around. He estimated that he hit the ground at 58 to 60 knots when he encountered a strong crosswind from the left, which pushed him off the runway. The aircraft subsequently came to rest against several trees.

A Federal Aviation Administration inspector from the Scottsdale, Arizona, Flight Standards District Office interviewed the airport manager after the accident. The manager stated that he had heard the airplane touch down and "it sounded very fast" so he looked up and saw the airplane rolling down the runway at a very fast rate of speed. The aircraft then departed the runway and collided with trees.

The inspector examined the runway and found several skid marks about 800 feet after the touchdown point.

In his written statement, the pilot reported the winds at the airport as 110 degrees at 5 knots. The winds at the closest aviation weather reporting station were 160 degrees at 7 knots.

Aircraft

Registration
N6585D
Reported as
Cessna 172N
Category
Airplane
Serial number
17272878
Engine
Lycoming O-320-D2J, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
Southwest Flight Services
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Departed
SDL · Scottsdale, AZ
Destination
E69
Airport
E69 · Payson, runway 24, 5,500 × 75 ft, asphalt

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Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
54
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Left
Flight hours
275 total · 131 in this make and model · 190 as pilot in command · 11 in the last 90 days · 4 in the last 30 days

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
160° at 7 knots
Visibility
65 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
45 °F, dew point 23 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
PRC, 57 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.