NYC85LA237

NTSB accident investigation · Piper J-3 · Chenango Bridge, NY · September 15, 1985

Accident · Serious injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
September 15, 1985, 14:30 local (18:30 UTC)
Place
Chenango Bridge, NY
Injuries
1 serious, 1 minor
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Initial climb
Aircraft
N41440Piper J-3
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19850915044989A
Case key
35966

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - in flightTakeoff - initial climb
Airspeed - not maintainedPilot in commandCause
Carburetor heat - improper use ofPilot in commandFactor
Stall/mush - uncontrolledPilot in commandCause
Lack of total experience in type of aircraftPilot in commandCause
In flight collision with terrain/waterDescent - uncontrolled

Analysis

According to the pax after takeoff the aircraft climbed to about 300 feet. The pilot then made a right turn. During the turn the pilot yelled out 'we're losing it, we're losing it.' Afterwards the aircraft descended and impacted the ground. The pax does not recall a decrease in engine power. The pilot does not have recollection of the occurrence. Examination of the aircraft did not disclose evidence of malfunction. The carb ht was found in the on position.

Aircraft

Registration
N41440
Reported as
Piper J-3
Category
Airplane
Serial number
8071
Airframe hours
4,342
Engine
Teledyne Cont A-75, 75 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
Norman & Glenn Green
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · July 1, 1984 · 15 hours before
Departed
4N2 · Chenango Bridge, NY
Airport
4N2 · Chenango Bridge

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
44
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Rear
Flight hours
302 total · 32 in this make and model · 232 as pilot in command · 8 in the last 90 days

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
280° at 13 knots
Visibility
45 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
25,000 ft broken
Temperature
64 °F, dew point -0 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
BGM, 8 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.