SEA08CA056

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-12 · Santa Ana, CA · December 31, 2007

Accident · No injuriesData collectionFinal report
Date
December 31, 2007, 12:15 local (20:15 UTC)
Place
Santa Ana, CA
Injuries
2 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Landing
Aircraft
N2800DPiper PA-12
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report February 28, 2008
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
20071231828819A
Case key
67322

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Probable cause

The failure of the student to maintain directional control during landing and the flight instructor's inadequate supervision of the flight.

Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - on ground/waterLanding - roll
Directional control - not maintainedDual studentCause
Supervision - inadequatePilot in command(cfi)Cause
Ground loop/swerve - encountered
Main gear collapsedLanding - roll
Terrain condition - runway

Analysis

The pilot was receiving dual instruction from the flight instructor for the purpose of receiving a tail wheel endorsement. He had accumulated a total of 7 hours tail wheel instruction in the accident airplane. The flight instructor reported that during the landing roll, the airplane yawed to the right and entered a ground loop which collapsed the left main landing gear.

Factual narrative

The airline transport pilot was receiving dual instruction from the flight instructor for the purpose of receiving a tail wheel endorsement. He had accumulated a total of 7 hours tail wheel instruction in the accident airplane. The flight instructor reported that during the landing roll, the airplane yawed to the right and entered a ground loop which collapsed the left main landing gear.

Aircraft

Registration
N2800D
Reported as
Piper PA-12
Category
Airplane
Serial number
12-1637
Engine
Lycoming O-320, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Departed
SNA · Santa Ana, CA
Destination
SNA
Airport
SNA · John Wayne - Orange County, runway 19L, 2,887 × 75 ft, asphalt

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Flight instructor
Age
68
Injuries
None
Certificates
Commercial, Flight instructor
Airplane ratings
Single-engine sea, Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 2
Flight hours
7,784 total · 6 in this make and model · 117 in the last 90 days · 44 in the last 30 days
Role
Student pilot
Age
52
Injuries
None
Certificates
Commercial, Airline transport
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land, Single-engine sea, Multi-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 3
Flight hours
2,303 total · 7 in this make and model · 70 in the last 90 days · 10 in the last 30 days

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
200° at 3 knots
Visibility
4 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
66 °F, dew point 7 °F
Altimeter
30.09 inHg
Observed at
SNA

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.