20240816010959A

Accident · Substantial damage

FAA accident report · Cessna 172M · Orlando, FL · August 16, 2024

Date
August 16, 2024 · 14:02 local
Place
Orlando, FL
Phase of flight
Landing: Touchdown
Operating rules
Pilot school (Part 141)
Operator
63CS
Damage
Substantial damage
Aircraft
N61859
NTSB investigation
NTSBERA24LA348
Reported as
Cessna 172M
Reported engine
Lycoming 0-320 series
People aboard
2
Fatal injuries
0
Other injuries
0
Pilot’s certificates
Commercial pilot, flight instructor, private pilot, student
Pilot’s flight hours
800 total531 in this make and model110 in the last 90 days

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What happened

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Tower report:

The aircraft was a full stop, bounced upon landing, appeared to over correct and veered into the ditch. The pilot called the tower on the telephone, stated no one was injured. Goaa called on the telephone to get the aircraft's tail number and said they were going to have a crane come to remove the plane from the ditch. I advised them not to move the aircraft until the NTSB is contacted and says it's okay to do so.

1853Z 06009GI 7KT 030V090 I0SM SCT075 32/19 A3002

Pilot report: an instructional flight with a flight instructor and check ride prep ppl student doing maneuvers. Coming back into land the winds were reported 070 @10G19 landing and departing runway seven. The plan was to do a short field landing prior to departure as he is getting ready for his check ride. After hearing the winds, it was decided that a soft field landing would be a better practice for the conditions as we can have gains and losses of airspeed due to the gusts. The approach to landing was relatively normal with no significant issues. Once we got into ground effect, the student ballooned the first time and turned slightly sideways and the student added some power to soften his soft field landing, the instructor advised to add rudder to straighten us out. At this point the student froze up and continued to balloon and added to much power suddenly we began to float losing airspeed, turning sideways abruptly off the runway quickly sinking toward the grass. The student did not properly correct with rudder nor did they execute a go around as trained. As we were sinking off the side of the runway, the instructor immediately took flight controls and attempted a go around. With being this low level and full flaps, the plane did not climb with the high density altitude, along with what it felt like a sudden drop in airspeed due to gusting winds. The instructor added full power and attempted to gain enough airspeed to climb with pitch. Unfortunately, within seconds we were unable to gain a positive rate of climb and landed in a small body of water off the side of the runway. The instructor immediately opened the door, turned off battery and alternator and got the student to safety. Both instructor and student were completely unharmed.

As the FAA filed it

TOWER REPORT:

THE AIRCRAFT WAS A FULL STOP, BOUNCED UPON LANDING, APPEARED TO OVER CORRECT AND VEERED INTO THE DITCH. THE PILOT CALLED THE TOWER ON THE TELEPHONE, STATED NO ONE WAS INJURED. GOAA CALLED ON THE TELEPHONE TO GET THE AIRCRAFT'S TAIL NUMBER AND SAID THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A CRANE COME TO REMOVE THE PLANE FROM THE DITCH. I ADVISED THEM NOT TO MOVE THE AIRCRAFT UNTIL THE NTSB IS CONTACTED AND SAYS IT'S OKAY TO DO SO.

1853Z 06009GI 7KT 030V090 I0SM SCT075 32/19 A3002

PILOT REPORT: AN INSTRUCTIONAL FLIGHT WITH A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR AND CHECK RIDE PREP PPL STUDENT DOING MANEUVERS. COMING BACK INTO LAND THE WINDS WERE REPORTED 070 @10G19 LANDING AND DEPARTING RUNWAY SEVEN. THE PLAN WAS TO DO A SHORT FIELD LANDING PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AS HE IS GETTING READY FOR HIS CHECK RIDE. AFTER HEARING THE WINDS, IT WAS DECIDED THAT A SOFT FIELD LANDING WOULD BE A BETTER PRACTICE FOR THE CONDITIONS AS WE CAN HAVE GAINS AND LOSSES OF AIRSPEED DUE TO THE GUSTS. THE APPROACH TO LANDING WAS RELATIVELY NORMAL WITH NO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. ONCE WE GOT INTO GROUND EFFECT, THE STUDENT BALLOONED THE FIRST TIME AND TURNED SLIGHTLY SIDEWAYS AND THE STUDENT ADDED SOME POWER TO SOFTEN HIS SOFT FIELD LANDING, THE INSTRUCTOR ADVISED TO ADD RUDDER TO STRAIGHTEN US OUT. AT THIS POINT THE STUDENT FROZE UP AND CONTINUED TO BALLOON AND ADDED TO MUCH POWER SUDDENLY WE BEGAN TO FLOAT LOSING AIRSPEED, TURNING SIDEWAYS ABRUPTLY OFF THE RUNWAY QUICKLY SINKING TOWARD THE GRASS. THE STUDENT DID NOT PROPERLY CORRECT WITH RUDDER NOR DID THEY EXECUTE A GO AROUND AS TRAINED. AS WE WERE SINKING OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY, THE INSTRUCTOR IMMEDIATELY TOOK FLIGHT CONTROLS AND ATTEMPTED A GO AROUND. WITH BEING THIS LOW LEVEL AND FULL FLAPS, THE PLANE DID NOT CLIMB WITH THE HIGH DENSITY ALTITUDE, ALONG WITH WHAT IT FELT LIKE A SUDDEN DROP IN AIRSPEED DUE TO GUSTING WINDS. THE INSTRUCTOR ADDED FULL POWER AND ATTEMPTED TO GAIN ENOUGH AIRSPEED TO CLIMB WITH PITCH. UNFORTUNATELY, WITHIN SECONDS WE WERE UNABLE TO GAIN A POSITIVE RATE OF CLIMB AND LANDED IN A SMALL BODY OF WATER OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY. THE INSTRUCTOR IMMEDIATELY OPENED THE DOOR, TURNED OFF BATTERY AND ALTERNATOR AND GOT THE STUDENT TO SAFETY. BOTH INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT WERE COMPLETELY UNHARMED.

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