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Accident · Substantial damage

FAA accident report · Piper J5C · Rochester, NY · August 1, 2025

Date
August 1, 2025 · 13:33 local
Place
Rochester, NY
Phase of flight
Cruise/Level Flight
Operating rules
General operating rules (Part 91)
Damage
Substantial damage
Aircraft
N28151
NTSB investigation
NTSBERA25FA283
Reported as
Piper J5C
People aboard
2
Fatal injuries
1
Other injuries
1
Pilot’s certificate
Airline transport
Pilot’s flight hours
7,577 total161 in the last 90 days

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What happened

The FAA’s narrative, in sentence case. The FAA writes it in capitals and removes private details.

On August 1, 2025, about 1330 eastern daylight time, a Piper J5C, was substantially damaged when it was involved in an accident near Rochester, new york. The passenger was fatally injured, and the pilot was seriously injured. The airplane was operated as a title 14 code of federal regulations part 91 personal flight.

According to the pilot, the airplane had not flown in several months and he had to remove mud

Dauber nests from the wings. They took off from a private runway, which was the owner/passenger’s, on the west side of Rochester, new york and flew east for about 30 minutes to whitfords airport (B16), weedsport, new york. They put 6 gallons of fuel in the airplane. The fuel sight gauges in each wing indicated full fuel tanks when they departed. The pilot added that during the return flight home, about 20 minutes into the flight, the engine started to surge. The engine RPM would go from full RPM of about 2,300 RPM to idle. Then seconds later, the engine would return to full power. Each time the engine would surge and go to an idle setting, the pilot would look for a place to land, either a parking lot or street. When the engine would return to full power, the pilot would climb and try to get as much altitude as possible. On the fifth or sixth time the engine surged, it lost all power, and the pilot tried to

Make a forced landing on a street. During the approach to land, the airplane contacted the top of a tree and then impacted the ground. The accident site was compact and all major components of the airplane were present. The airplane’s six propeller bolts made 1” impression marks in the blacktop about 10 feet away

From the main wreckage. The main wreckage came to rest inverted and oriented on a heading

Of 235°. The leading edges of both wings were accordion crushed aft down their entire lengths. The

Fabric was torn on the wings and empennage from impact forces. The empennage was bent upward and forward. The instrument panel was crushed aft. Flight control continuity was established from the cockpit controls to all flight control surfaces. No electrical system was installed in the airplane. The rudder and elevator were intact and unremarkable. The ailerons

Were installed and intact. The left aileron connecting rod was impact fractured. Both wing fuel tanks were breached. There was no fuel in either tank. The fuel gasolator was removed. Dirt and debris was found at the bottom of the gasolator. Air was blown through the fuel lines and no obstructions were noted. No mud dauber nests were found in the fuel system; however,

Much of the system, including the vent, was impact damaged. The wooden propeller was still connected to the engine’s propeller flange. One propeller blade

Was fractured and splintered. The spinner dome was crushed. The propeller flange was impact damaged and the crankshaft was bent. The magnetos were removed and their input drives were rotated by hand. The left magneto produced spark on all leads. The right magneto was impact damaged and the internal gears were crushed. The right magneto rotated but did not

Spark. The carburetor was fractured into several pieces from impact with the ground. The propeller was rotated by hand and thumb compression was established on all cylinders. A lighted borescope was used to inspect the inside of all of the engine’s cylinders with no anomalies noted.

As the FAA filed it

ON AUGUST 1, 2025, ABOUT 1330 EASTERN DAYLIGHT TIME, A PIPER J5C, WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED WHEN IT WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT NEAR ROCHESTER, NEW YORK. THE PASSENGER WAS FATALLY INJURED, AND THE PILOT WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED. THE AIRPLANE WAS OPERATED AS A TITLE 14 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS PART 91 PERSONAL FLIGHT.

ACCORDING TO THE PILOT, THE AIRPLANE HAD NOT FLOWN IN SEVERAL MONTHS AND HE HAD TO REMOVE MUD

DAUBER NESTS FROM THE WINGS. THEY TOOK OFF FROM A PRIVATE RUNWAY, WHICH WAS THE OWNER/PASSENGER’S, ON THE WEST SIDE OF ROCHESTER, NEW YORK AND FLEW EAST FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES TO WHITFORDS AIRPORT (B16), WEEDSPORT, NEW YORK. THEY PUT 6 GALLONS OF FUEL IN THE AIRPLANE. THE FUEL SIGHT GAUGES IN EACH WING INDICATED FULL FUEL TANKS WHEN THEY DEPARTED. THE PILOT ADDED THAT DURING THE RETURN FLIGHT HOME, ABOUT 20 MINUTES INTO THE FLIGHT, THE ENGINE STARTED TO SURGE. THE ENGINE RPM WOULD GO FROM FULL RPM OF ABOUT 2,300 RPM TO IDLE. THEN SECONDS LATER, THE ENGINE WOULD RETURN TO FULL POWER. EACH TIME THE ENGINE WOULD SURGE AND GO TO AN IDLE SETTING, THE PILOT WOULD LOOK FOR A PLACE TO LAND, EITHER A PARKING LOT OR STREET. WHEN THE ENGINE WOULD RETURN TO FULL POWER, THE PILOT WOULD CLIMB AND TRY TO GET AS MUCH ALTITUDE AS POSSIBLE. ON THE FIFTH OR SIXTH TIME THE ENGINE SURGED, IT LOST ALL POWER, AND THE PILOT TRIED TO

MAKE A FORCED LANDING ON A STREET. DURING THE APPROACH TO LAND, THE AIRPLANE CONTACTED THE TOP OF A TREE AND THEN IMPACTED THE GROUND. THE ACCIDENT SITE WAS COMPACT AND ALL MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE AIRPLANE WERE PRESENT. THE AIRPLANE’S SIX PROPELLER BOLTS MADE 1” IMPRESSION MARKS IN THE BLACKTOP ABOUT 10 FEET AWAY

FROM THE MAIN WRECKAGE. THE MAIN WRECKAGE CAME TO REST INVERTED AND ORIENTED ON A HEADING

OF 235°. THE LEADING EDGES OF BOTH WINGS WERE ACCORDION CRUSHED AFT DOWN THEIR ENTIRE LENGTHS. THE

FABRIC WAS TORN ON THE WINGS AND EMPENNAGE FROM IMPACT FORCES. THE EMPENNAGE WAS BENT UPWARD AND FORWARD. THE INSTRUMENT PANEL WAS CRUSHED AFT. FLIGHT CONTROL CONTINUITY WAS ESTABLISHED FROM THE COCKPIT CONTROLS TO ALL FLIGHT CONTROL SURFACES. NO ELECTRICAL SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED IN THE AIRPLANE. THE RUDDER AND ELEVATOR WERE INTACT AND UNREMARKABLE. THE AILERONS

WERE INSTALLED AND INTACT. THE LEFT AILERON CONNECTING ROD WAS IMPACT FRACTURED. BOTH WING FUEL TANKS WERE BREACHED. THERE WAS NO FUEL IN EITHER TANK. THE FUEL GASOLATOR WAS REMOVED. DIRT AND DEBRIS WAS FOUND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GASOLATOR. AIR WAS BLOWN THROUGH THE FUEL LINES AND NO OBSTRUCTIONS WERE NOTED. NO MUD DAUBER NESTS WERE FOUND IN THE FUEL SYSTEM; HOWEVER,

MUCH OF THE SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE VENT, WAS IMPACT DAMAGED. THE WOODEN PROPELLER WAS STILL CONNECTED TO THE ENGINE’S PROPELLER FLANGE. ONE PROPELLER BLADE

WAS FRACTURED AND SPLINTERED. THE SPINNER DOME WAS CRUSHED. THE PROPELLER FLANGE WAS IMPACT DAMAGED AND THE CRANKSHAFT WAS BENT. THE MAGNETOS WERE REMOVED AND THEIR INPUT DRIVES WERE ROTATED BY HAND. THE LEFT MAGNETO PRODUCED SPARK ON ALL LEADS. THE RIGHT MAGNETO WAS IMPACT DAMAGED AND THE INTERNAL GEARS WERE CRUSHED. THE RIGHT MAGNETO ROTATED BUT DID NOT

SPARK. THE CARBURETOR WAS FRACTURED INTO SEVERAL PIECES FROM IMPACT WITH THE GROUND. THE PROPELLER WAS ROTATED BY HAND AND THUMB COMPRESSION WAS ESTABLISHED ON ALL CYLINDERS. A LIGHTED BORESCOPE WAS USED TO INSPECT THE INSIDE OF ALL OF THE ENGINE’S CYLINDERS WITH NO ANOMALIES NOTED.

NTSB investigation

The NTSB’s investigation of this event, with its probable cause and findings. Matched to this report by N-number and date.