- Date
- September 15, 2010, 18:40 local (Sep 16, 2010, 02:40 UTC)
- Place
- Dillingham, AK
- Injuries
- 1 serious, 1 minor
- Phase of flight
- Initial climb
- Aircraft
- N9699PPiper PA-18N2FDPiper PA-18
- Defining events
- Initial climb: Midair collisionInitial climb: Midair collision
- Weather
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Status
- Completed · report May 19, 2011
- Report
- Approved by Office Director
- NTSB office
- Alaska Regional Office
- Parties
- FAA FSDO-03
- FAA reports
- 20100915049451A20100915049471A
- Case key
- 77323
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Probable cause
Both pilots’ failure to see and avoid each other during initial climb, resulting in a midair collision. Contributing to the accident was the pilot of N9699P’s inability to use his airplane's radio for air traffic advisories.
Both pilots’ failure to see and avoid each other during initial climb, resulting in a midair collision. Contributing to the accident was the pilot of N9699P’s inability to use his airplane's radio for air traffic advisories.
Findings · 6
NTSB’s coded findings. Those marked are part of the probable cause; the rest are factors or other findings. Under each, the cases with the same finding.
N9699P · Piper PA-18
N2FD · Piper PA-18
Sequence of events
The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event is the one that best describes the accident. Under each, the cases with the same event anywhere in their sequence.
N9699P · Piper PA-18
N2FD · Piper PA-18
Analysis
Two pilots of the same model Piper float-equipped airplanes were departing from the same floatplane lake toward a mutual destination when they collided in midair near the edge of the lake. Visual flight rules weather conditions existed at the time of the departures. The floatplane lake did not have air traffic control services, although an adjacent Federal Aviation Administration flight service station (FSS) was operating and issuing air traffic advisories via radio to participating pilots. The pilot of one of the airplanes, N9699P, discovered that the airplane's battery was dead during the preflight inspection and hand-propped the airplane to start it before he taxied on the lake to warm up the engine. He said when he applied power for takeoff, the second airplane (N2FD) was to his left and behind him. He indicated that he was unable to use his airplane's radio due to the dead battery. During the initial takeoff climb he said he saw something that flashed by and heard a loud noise. He then lost control and the airplane impacted the ground next to the lake, sustaining substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. The pilot of the other airplane (N2FD) said that he started his airplane and, while taxiing on the lake, contacted the nearby FAA FSS for a traffic advisory. He said that he did not hear N9699P on the radio. When he departed the other accident airplane was still on the lake to his right and, he believed, still taxiing to warm up its engine. He said that he heard a loud bang, and thought something had broken on his airplane, resulting in a loss of control and impact. His airplane sustained substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. A witness said that he was in his house near the lake and heard two airplanes power up, one right after the other, and he looked outside to watch. Both airplanes started to take off from different areas on the same side of the lake and were headed in the same direction. He indicated that as both airplanes lifted off the water and started to climb, about 50 to 70 feet above the water, one airplane (N9699P) appeared to come up underneath the other's (N2FD) right wing. The witness said that the airplanes collided and tumbled to the shore of the lake.
Two pilots of the same model Piper float-equipped airplanes were departing from the same floatplane lake toward a mutual destination when they collided in midair near the edge of the lake. Visual flight rules weather conditions existed at the time of the departures. The floatplane lake did not have air traffic control services, although an adjacent Federal Aviation Administration flight service station (FSS) was operating and issuing air traffic advisories via radio to participating pilots. The pilot of one of the airplanes, N9699P, discovered that the airplane's battery was dead during the preflight inspection and hand-propped the airplane to start it before he taxied on the lake to warm up the engine. He said when he applied power for takeoff, the second airplane (N2FD) was to his left and behind him. He indicated that he was unable to use his airplane's radio due to the dead battery. During the initial takeoff climb he said he saw something that flashed by and heard a loud noise. He then lost control and the airplane impacted the ground next to the lake, sustaining substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. The pilot of the other airplane (N2FD) said that he started his airplane and, while taxiing on the lake, contacted the nearby FAA FSS for a traffic advisory. He said that he did not hear N9699P on the radio. When he departed the other accident airplane was still on the lake to his right and, he believed, still taxiing to warm up its engine. He said that he heard a loud bang, and thought something had broken on his airplane, resulting in a loss of control and impact. His airplane sustained substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. A witness said that he was in his house near the lake and heard two airplanes power up, one right after the other, and he looked outside to watch. Both airplanes started to take off from different areas on the same side of the lake and were headed in the same direction. He indicated that as both airplanes lifted off the water and started to climb, about 50 to 70 feet above the water, one airplane (N9699P) appeared to come up underneath the other's (N2FD) right wing. The witness said that the airplanes collided and tumbled to the shore of the lake.
Factual narrative
On September 15, 2010, about 1840 Alaska daylight time, a float-equipped Piper PA-18 airplane, N9699P, sustained substantial damage during takeoff-initial climb from a floatplane lake, when it collided midair with another float-equipped Piper PA-18 airplane, N2FD, which also sustained substantial damage. The accident occurred about 3 miles west of Dillingham, Alaska. The airplanes were being operated by the pilots as visual flight rules (VFR) personal local flights under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulation Part 91. The solo commercial pilot of N9699P received serious injuries, and the solo private pilot of N2FD received minor injuries. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plans were filed. During a telephone conversation with the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigator-in-charge (IIC) on September 24, the pilot of N9699P said he and the pilot of N2FD were friends, and that they were both departing for the same destination. He said during a preflight inspection of his airplane he found the master switch on, and the battery was dead. He said he hand-propped the airplane, and taxied on the lake to warm up the engine. The pilot said when he applied power for takeoff, the other airplane was to his left and behind him. He said he was not able to use the airplane's radio due to the dead battery, and the alternator had not kicked in to start charging the battery. He said his intent was to climb straight out to the south from the lake, and then turn east toward their destination. He said as the airplane climbed toward the edge of the lake, he saw something that flashed by, and he heard a loud noise. He said he lost control of the airplane, and it impacted the ground next to the lake. He said the airplane received substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. During a telephone conversation with the NTSB IIC on October 1, the pilot of the other accident airplane, N2FD, said that he had made arrangements with the pilot of N9699P to meet at another location after departing their mutual home floatplane lake. He said he had started his airplane, and was taxiing on the lake. He contacted a nearby FAA flight service station via the airplane's radio, who advised of helicopter traffic in the area. He said he did not hear N9699P on the radio, and that the last time he saw N9699P, it was on the lake to his right, and he believed taxiing to warm up its engine. He said he applied takeoff power, believing that he was the first to leave, and was not aware that N9699P was also taking off. He said he heard a loud bang, and thought something had broken on his airplane causing a loss of control and the crash. The pilot said he did not know he had collided with another airplane until he exited the wreckage on the ground. He said the airplane received substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. On September 30, the IIC contacted a witness to the accident via telephone. The witness said he was in his residenceadjacent to the floatplane lake, and heard two airplanes power up, one right after the other. He said it was unusual for two airplanes to takeoff at the same time, and he looked outside to watch. The witness said he was familiar with both airplanes and pilots, and that he did not know which airplane powered up first. He said both airplanes started to takeoff from different areas on the same side of the lake, and they were headed in the same direction. He said both airplanes lifted off the water and started to climb. He said N9699P was to the right of N2FD, and that N9699P appeared to be in a slight left bank. He said about 50-70 feet above the water, N9699P appeared to come up underneath N2FD's right wing. The witness said the airplanes collided, and tumbled to the shore of the lake.
On September 15, 2010, about 1840 Alaska daylight time, a float-equipped Piper PA-18 airplane, N9699P, sustained substantial damage during takeoff-initial climb from a floatplane lake, when it collided midair with another float-equipped Piper PA-18 airplane, N2FD, which also sustained substantial damage. The accident occurred about 3 miles west of Dillingham, Alaska. The airplanes were being operated by the pilots as visual flight rules (VFR) personal local flights under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulation Part 91. The solo commercial pilot of N9699P received serious injuries, and the solo private pilot of N2FD received minor injuries. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plans were filed. During a telephone conversation with the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigator-in-charge (IIC) on September 24, the pilot of N9699P said he and the pilot of N2FD were friends, and that they were both departing for the same destination. He said during a preflight inspection of his airplane he found the master switch on, and the battery was dead. He said he hand-propped the airplane, and taxied on the lake to warm up the engine. The pilot said when he applied power for takeoff, the other airplane was to his left and behind him. He said he was not able to use the airplane's radio due to the dead battery, and the alternator had not kicked in to start charging the battery. He said his intent was to climb straight out to the south from the lake, and then turn east toward their destination. He said as the airplane climbed toward the edge of the lake, he saw something that flashed by, and he heard a loud noise. He said he lost control of the airplane, and it impacted the ground next to the floatplane lake. He said the airplane received substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. During a telephone conversation with the NTSB IIC on October 1, the pilot of the other accident airplane, N2FD, said that he had made arrangements with the pilot of N9699P to meet at another location after departing their mutual home floatplane lake. He said he had started his airplane, and was taxiing on the lake. He contacted a nearby FAA flight service station via the airplane's radio, who advised of helicopter traffic in the area. He said he did not hear N9699P on the radio, and that the last time he saw N9699P, it was on the lake to his right, and he believed taxiing to warm up its engine. He said he applied takeoff power, believing that he was the first to leave, and was not aware that N9699P was also taking off. He said he heard a loud bang, and thought something had broken on his airplane causing a loss of control and the crash. The pilot said he did not know he had collided with another airplane until he exited the wreckage on the ground. He said the airplane received substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. On September 30, the IIC contacted a witness to the accident via telephone. The witness said he was in hisresidence adjacent to the floatplane lake, and heard two airplanes power up, one right after the other. He said it was unusual for two airplanes to takeoff at the same time, and he looked outside to watch. The witness said he was familiar with both airplanes and pilots, and that he did not know which airplane powered up first. He said both airplanes started to takeoff from different areas on the same side of the lake, and they were headed in the same direction. He said both airplanes lifted off the water and started to climb. He said N9699P was to the right of N2FD, and that N9699P appeared to be in a slight left bank. He said about 50-70 feet above the water, N9699P appeared to come up underneath N2FD's right wing. The witness said the airplanes collided, and tumbled to the shore of the lake.
Aircraft · 2
- Registration
- N9699P
- Reported as
- Piper PA-18
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 18-7509044
- Airframe hours
- 2,555
- Engine
- Lycoming O-320 B2B, 160 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Personal · Part 91
- Operator
- Rodgers Justin C
- Registered owner
- Rodgers Justin C
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Normal
- Last inspection
- Annual · October 19, 2009
- Departed
- 0Z3 · Dillingham, AK
- Destination
- 0Z3 · Dillingham, AK
- Flight plan
- Unknown
- Airport
- 0Z3 · Shannons Pond Seaplane
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
- Registration
- N2FD
- Reported as
- Piper PA-18
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 18-4559
- Airframe hours
- 3,484
- Engine
- Lycoming O-320, 150 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Personal · Part 91
- Operator
- Woolington James D
- Registered owner
- Woolington James D
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Normal
- Last inspection
- Annual · June 2, 2010
- Departed
- 0Z3 · Dillingham, AK
- Destination
- 0Z3 · Dillingham, AK
- Flight plan
- Unknown
- Airport
- 0Z3 · Shannons Pond Seaplane
Flight crew · 2
As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N9699P
- Age
- 37
- Injuries
- Serious
- Certificate
- Commercial
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine sea, Single-engine land
- Instrument ratings
- Airplane
- Medical
- Class 2, Without waivers/limitations
- Last flight review
- April 27, 2010
- Seat
- Front
- Flight hours
- 5,929 total · 4,500 in this make and model · 5,852 as pilot in command · 153 in the last 90 days · 67 in the last 30 days · 4 in the last 24 hours
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N2FD
- Age
- 57
- Injuries
- Minor
- Certificate
- Private
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine sea, Single-engine land
- Medical
- Class 2, With waivers/limitations
- Last flight review
- August 27, 2008
- Seat
- Front
- Flight hours
- 1,250 total · 619 in this make and model · 1,145 as pilot in command · 11 in the last 90 days · 8 in the last 30 days · 1 in the last 24 hours
Weather
- Conditions
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Wind
- 180° at 8 knots
- Visibility
- 30 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling
- None
- Temperature
- 55 °F, dew point 45 °F
- Altimeter
- 30.20 inHg
- Observed at
- PADL, 3 nm away
Docket · 3
The files NTSB released with the investigation on March 11, 2011, on NTSB’s docket system: statements, records, photos and specialists’ reports. 2.3 MB in all.
FAA reports on this event · 2
The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.