- Date
- November 7, 1987, 12:41 local (17:41 UTC)
- Place
- Detroit, MI
- Injuries
- 5 uninjured
- Phase of flight
- Standing
- Aircraft
- N8253EPiper PA-28-161N6341TNorth American P-51D
- Weather
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Status
- Completed · report February 24, 1989
- Report
- Approved by Office Director
- FAA reports
- 19871107062422A19871107062421A
- Case key
- 14013
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Sequence of events
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Analysis
The plt of north American P-51D, N6341T, was southbound on twy alpha as the plt of Piper PA-28 cherokee, N8253E, taxied from the run-up area to the hold line for rwy 33, which was near the intxn of twys alpha & india. The plt of the tail- wheel equipped P-51 was s-turning as he taxied to clear the area ahead. However, while crossing the intxn of twys alpha & india in a left s-turn, his rgt wing struck the empennage of the PA-28. The PA-28 was substantially dmgd while the P-51 rcvd minor damage. The PA-28 plt said he had contacted gnd ctl before taxiing from the run-up area to the hold line, then had changed to tower freq. However, he had delayed contacting the tower due to radio congestion on that freq. The P-51 plt stated that from a distance, he saw another acft moving west across his path, but he did not receive an adzy of the close proximity of the PA-28. A check of the tower tape revealed the gnd ctlr had transmitted to the P-51 plt 'caution for cherokee ahead and to your right.'
Aircraft · 2
- Registration
- N8253E
- Reported as
- Piper PA-28-161
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 28-8216183
- Airframe hours
- 3,367
- Engine
- Lycoming O-320-D3G, 160 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Personal · Part 91
- Registered owner
- Olsen Flight Service
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Normal
- Last inspection
- 100 hour · October 16, 1987 · 50 hours before
- Departed
- DET
- Airport
- DET · Detroit City, runway 33, 5,090 × 100 ft, asphalt
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
- Registration
- N6341T
- Reported as
- North American P-51D
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 44-74774
- Airframe hours
- 2,503
- Engine
- Rolls-Royce V-1650, 1,720 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Minor damage
- Flight
- Business · Part 91
- Registered owner
- Robert F. Byrne
- Airworthiness certificate
- Special, Limited (Special)
- Last inspection
- Annual · July 15, 1987
- Departed
- DET
- Destination
- DET
- Airport
- DET · Detroit City, runway 33, 5,090 × 100 ft, asphalt
Flight crew · 2
As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N8253E
- Age
- 26
- Certificates
- Commercial, Flight instructor
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
- Instrument ratings
- Airplane
- Medical
- Class 2, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
- Seat
- Left
- Flight hours
- 520 total · 20 in this make and model · 376 as pilot in command · 170 in the last 90 days · 3 in the last 24 hours
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N6341T
- Age
- 65
- Certificate
- Private
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
- Medical
- Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
- Seat
- Front
- Flight hours
- 2,090 total · 516 in this make and model · 2,090 as pilot in command · 45 in the last 90 days · 1 in the last 24 hours
Weather
- Conditions
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Wind
- Calm
- Visibility
- 15 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling
- None
- Temperature
- 54 °F, dew point 34 °F
- Altimeter
- 30.00 inHg
- Observed at
- DET
FAA reports on this event · 2
The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.
Other investigations on N8253E · 1
Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.