FTW85LA057

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-38-112 · Newcastle, OK · November 24, 1984

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
November 24, 1984, 08:00 local (14:00 UTC)
Place
Newcastle, OK
Injuries
2 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Approach
Aircraft
N2478BPiper PA-38-112
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Dawn
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19841124076039A
Case key
21630

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - in flightGo-around (vfr)
Raising of flaps - improper use ofDual studentFactor
Throttle/power control - not performedDual studentFactor
Remedial action - delayedPilot in command(cfi)Cause
Relinquishing of control - not understoodDual studentFactor
Supervision - inadequatePilot in command(cfi)Factor
Airspeed(vs) - not maintainedPilot in command(cfi)Cause
Stall/mush - inadvertent
In flight collision with terrain/waterDescent - uncontrolled
Terrain condition - open field

Analysis

On simulated emerg landing, instructor evaluated approach as unsalvagable & at 1700 ft AGL told student to execute go-around. Student had allowed airspeed to decay in an effort to stretch glide. Student raised flaps & did not add pwr. As acft settled, instructor added pwr and redeployed flaps. Instructor stated his attempts to lower acft nose to gain airspeed were thwarted by students failure to relinquish control and continued application of nose up input. Instructor gained control too late to avoid stall/mush into sod field.

Aircraft

Registration
N2478B
Reported as
Piper PA-38-112
Category
Airplane
Serial number
79A0081
Airframe hours
3,450
Engine
Lycoming O-235-L2C, 115 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Aero-Flite Of Norman
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
100 hour · October 15, 1984 · 50 hours before
Departed
OUN · Norman, OK

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
24
Certificate
Commercial
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 2, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Right
Flight hours
860 total · 501 in this make and model · 745 as pilot in command · 313 in the last 90 days · 1 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Dawn
Wind
120° at 4 knots
Visibility
15 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
36 °F, dew point 30 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.