LAX70AL067

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-28R · Ramona, CA · April 22, 1970

Accident · No injuriesClosed
Date
April 22, 1970
Place
Ramona, CA · RAMONA, CA
Injuries
2 uninjured
Phase of flight
Approach
Aircraft
N4695JPiper PA-28RN61183Cessna 150J
Status
Completed · report August 4, 1970
Report
Brief approved by the director
Case key
141290

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NTSB brief

NTSB’s brief of the accident, as it was printed: the coded facts, with the probable cause and factors.

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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-0612  70/4/22    RAMONA,CALIF        CESSNA 150J         CR-  0  0  1  INSTRUCTIONAL             STUDENT, AGE 31, 30 TOTAL
        TIME - 1115                    N61183              PX-  0  0  0  SOLO                      HOURS, ALL IN TYPE, NOT
                                       DAMAGE-MINOR        OT-  0  0  1                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - RAMONA
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION         LAST ENROUTE STOP
          OCEANSIDE,CALIF             OCEANSIDE,CALIF              RAMONA,CALIF
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT
           PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - RADAR SERVICE NOT AVAILABLE
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONTROLLED/UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT - UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT
          CONTROL ZONE/AREA - NO                                   EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO
          ANTI-COLLISION LIGHTS - INSTALLED,OPERATION UNKNOWN
        REMARKS- PIPER PLT SAW CESSNA HIGH ABOVE AND BEHIND ON DOWNWIND LEG.CESSNA PLT DIDNT SEE PIPER.
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-0612  70/4/22    RAMONA,CALIF        PIPER PA-28R        CR-  0  0  1  INSTRUCTIONAL             STUDENT, AGE 25, 29 TOTAL
        TIME - 1115                    N4695J              PX-  0  0  0  SOLO                      HOURS, ALL IN TYPE, NOT
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  1                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - RAMONA
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION         LAST ENROUTE STOP
          SAN DIEGO,CALIF             SAN DIEGO,CALIF              RAMONA,CALIF
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT
           PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - RADAR SERVICE NOT AVAILABLE
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONTROLLED/UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT - UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT
          CONTROL ZONE/AREA - NO                                   EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO
          ANTI-COLLISION LIGHTS - INSTALLED,OPERATION UNKNOWN
        REMARKS- BOTH PLTS TRIED TO CALL UNICOM. HORIZ STAB AND VERT FIN OF PIPER DAMAGED. PLT MADE GO AROUND,LND.

Aircraft · 2

Registration
N4695J
Reported as
Piper PA-28R
Category
Airplane
Engine
reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Airport
Ramona

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Registration
N61183
Reported as
Cessna 150J
Category
Airplane
Engine
reciprocating
Damage
Minor damage
Airport
Ramona

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Other investigations on N4695J · 1

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.