LAX97LA294

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-18-150 · Chandler, AZ · August 18, 1997

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
August 18, 1997, 16:20 local (23:20 UTC)
Place
Chandler, AZ
Injuries
2 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Landing
Aircraft
N57528Piper PA-18-150
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report January 7, 1998
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19970818022669A
Case key
29877

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Probable cause

The student's failure to maintain directional control due to excessive use of the rudder, and the instructor's delayed remedial action.

Sequence of events

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Loss of control - on ground/waterLanding - roll
Rudder - improper use ofDual studentCause
Directional control - not maintainedDual studentCause
Ground loop/swerve - inadvertentCause
Remedial action - delayedPilot in command(cfi)Cause
On ground/water collision with objectLanding - roll
Object - signFactor

Analysis

The private pilot and the CFI were practicing touch-and-go landings. The CFI stated that the student had been using too much rudder in correcting previous landings. As they touched down the airplane began to veer to the left. The CFI told the student to straighten it out and the student added too much right rudder to correct the problem. The CFI said he added left rudder and brake to try and correct the problem, but it was too late and the airplane had already begun the inadvertent ground loop/swerve. The airplane departed the runway and subsequently struck a runway sign.

Factual narrative

On August 18, 1997, at 1620 hours mountain standard time, a Piper PA-18-150, N57528, slid off the runway and collided with an airport sign following a ground loop after touchdown at Chandler, Arizona. The aircraft sustained substantial damage. The flight instructor and the private pilot, who was being checked out in this aircraft, were not injured. The flight originated in Chandler at 1535, and visual meteorological conditions prevailed.

In his statement, the flight instructor reported "On the landing in question we were doing a wheel landing and (the second pilot) was using a little too much rudder in correcting on previous landings. As we touched down the aircraft started veering to the left and I told the student to straighten it out. He then added too much right rudder to correct and by the time that I could get the left rudder and a little left brake in to try and correct it, it was too late the aircraft was already starting the loop."

He then stated that the airplane proceeded to ground loop to the right off the runway. The airplane entered the dirt about 90 degrees to the runway where subsequently, the left side of the fuselage struck a runway sign.

The second pilot, a certificated private pilot had successfully completed his check ride for his certificate on July 31, 1997. He had 14.4 hours total time in the accident aircraft, 4.2 of which were flown solo. According to the copies of the second pilot's logbooks provided as an attachment to the Pilot/Operator report, the second pilot had a total of 77 landings in the accident airplane.

Aircraft

Registration
N57528
Reported as
Piper PA-18-150
Category
Airplane
Serial number
18-7709036
Airframe hours
4,360
Engine
Lycoming O-320-A2B, 150 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Chandler Air Services Inc.
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
100 hour · July 7, 1997 · 43 hours before
Departed
CHD
Airport
CHD · Chandler Municipal, runway 22, 4,395 × 75 ft, asphalt

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Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
28
Certificates
Airline transport, Flight instructor
Airplane ratings
Multi-engine land, Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 1, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Rear
Flight hours
2,550 total · 225 in this make and model · 2,343 as pilot in command · 210 in the last 90 days · 65 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
300° at 6 knots
Visibility
30 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
97 °F, dew point 59 °F
Altimeter
29.00 inHg
Observed at
IWA, 8 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.

Other investigations on N57528 · 1

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