MKC83LA004

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-28-140B · Emporia, KS · October 6, 1982

Accident · Minor injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
October 5, 1982, 19:25 local (Oct 6, 1982, 00:25 UTC)
Place
Emporia, KS
Injuries
1 minor, 2 uninjured
Phase of flight
Landing
Aircraft
N8836NPiper PA-28-140BN89585Cessna 152
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Dusk
Status
Completed · report October 5, 1983
Report
Approved by Office Director
Case key
70592

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

On ground/water collision with objectLanding - roll
Light condition - duskFactor
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot in commandCause
Lack of total experiencePilot in command
On ground/water collision with objectStanding
Light condition - duskFactor
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot of other aircraftCause
Lack of total experiencePilot of other aircraft

Analysis

The instructor pilot (ip) and a student were practicing stop-and-go landings in a Cessna 152, N89585, at an uncontrolled airport. The ip reported that they were monitoring the UNICOM frequency and had announced their intentions before each stop-and-go. The ip observed another aircraft, Piper PA-28, N8836N, in the pattern. After making several touch-and-go landings, the pilot of the Piper PA-28 (a student pilot) departed the pattern for a short time. The ip in the Cessna 152 saw the Piper PA-28 reenter the traffic pattern and advised the Piper that his rotating beacon was not working. After again announcing their intentions, the Cessna aircrew stopped about 1200 to 1300 ft from the approach end of the runway. While the Cessna was being reconfigured for takeoff, it was struck from behind by the Piper. The student in the Piper reported he did not realize the Cessna would stop on the runway. He did not see it stopped on the runway until after touchdown. The Piper's right wing hit the Cessna's tail.

The student pilot was flying a Piper PA-28, N8836N. After taking off from an uncontrolled airport, he made 3 or 4 touch-and-go landings, then departed the traffic pattern for a short time. When he reentered the traffic pattern, he monitored the UNICOM frequency and reported his position in the pattern. He heard the aircrew of a Cessna 152, N89585, call for a stop-and-go. The student stated that he did not realize the other aircraft would come to a full stop on the runway. The student reported that as he continued the landing, he was concentrating on the end of the runway and on touching down properly. He did not see the Cessna stopped on the runway until after touchdown. He turned to avoid a collision, but his right wing hit the tail of the Cessna. The instructor pilot in the Cessna stated that he and his student had come to a stop about 1200 to 1300 ft from the approach end of the runway. They were reconfiguring the Cessna for takeoff when the collision occurred.

Aircraft · 2

Registration
N8836N
Reported as
Piper PA-28-140B
Category
Airplane
Serial number
28-25687
Airframe hours
6,236
Engine
Lycoming O-320-E2A, 140 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Operator
Alton & Scott B. Hoover
Registered owner
Alton & Scott B. Hoover
Departed
EMP · Emporia, KS
Destination
EMP · Emporia, KS
Airport
EMP · Emporia Municipal, runway 18, 4,950 × 100 ft, asphalt

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Registration
N89585
Reported as
Cessna 152
Category
Airplane
Serial number
15282796
Airframe hours
1,575
Engine
Lycoming O-235-L2C, 112 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Operator
Emporia Aviation
Registered owner
Emporia Aviation
Departed
EMP · Emporia, KS
Destination
EMP · Emporia, KS
Airport
EMP · Emporia Municipal, runway 18, 4,950 × 100 ft, asphalt

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot, aircraft N8836N
Age
26
Certificate
Student
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Flight hours
44 total · 44 in this make and model · 19 as pilot in command · 26 in the last 90 days · 14 in the last 30 days
Role
Pilot, aircraft N89585
Age
36
Certificates
Commercial, Flight instructor
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 2, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Flight hours
1,486 total · 765 in this make and model · 1,354 as pilot in command · 177 in the last 90 days · 50 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Dusk
Wind
160° at 10 knots
Visibility
7 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
25,000 ft broken
Temperature
174 °F
Altimeter
29.00 inHg
Observed at
EMP

FAA reports on this event · 2

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.