- Date
- March 31, 1985, 10:50 local (15:50 UTC)
- Place
- Red Hook, NY
- Injuries
- 4 uninjured
- Phase of flight
- Enroute
- Weather
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Status
- Completed
- Report
- Approved by Office Director
- Case key
- 35852
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Analysis
During flt, a Piper PA-32R-201, N2263Q, & a bainbridge jodel F-12, N5700, encountered structural icing conditions. The windshields of both acft became covered with ice which restricted the forward visibility of the occupants in both acft. N5700 landed 1st. The plt of N5700 turned his acft around & was taxiing on the rwy when the plt of N2263Q was landing. Within seconds after N2263Q touched down, the 2 acft collided. The plt of N2263Q reported that his passenger, who was also a pilot, made the appropriate radio calls in the traffic pattern. The plt of N5700 reported that he removed his headset after landing so he could get his head against the side window for better vision while taxiing.
During flt, a Piper PA-32R-201, N2263Q, & a bainbridge jodel F-12, N5700, encountered structural icing conditions. The windshields of both acft became covered with ice which restricted the forward visibility of the occupants in both acft. N5700 landed 1st. The plt of N5700 turned his acft around & was taxiing on the rwy when the plt of N2263Q was landing. Within seconds after N2263Q touched down, the 2 acft collided. The plt of N2263Q reported that his passenger, who was also a pilot, made the approapriate radio calls in the traffic pattern. The plt of N5700 reported that he removed his headset after landing so he could get his head against the side window for better vision while taxiing.
Aircraft · 2
- Registration
- N2263Q
- Reported as
- Piper PA-28R-201
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 28R7737030
- Airframe hours
- 2,459
- Engine
- Lycoming IO-360-C1C6, 200 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Personal · Part 91
- Operator
- Red Hook Air Service
- Registered owner
- George Drobot, Jr.
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Normal
- Last inspection
- Annual · September 4, 1984 · 28 hours before
- Airport
- 46N · Skypark, runway 1, 2,666 × 30 ft, asphalt
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
- Registration
- N5700
- Reported as
- Bainbridge Jodel F-12
- Category
- Airplane, amateur-built
- Serial number
- F7077
- Airframe hours
- 423
- Engine
- Lycoming O-290-DL, 140 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Personal · Part 91
- Registered owner
- Georffrey N. Fletcher
- Airworthiness certificate
- Special, Experimental (Special)
- Last inspection
- 100 hour · July 1, 1984 · 10 hours before
- Airport
- 46N · Skypark, runway 1, 2,666 × 30 ft, asphalt
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
Flight crew · 2
As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N2263Q
- Age
- 52
- Certificate
- Private
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land
- Medical
- Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
- Seat
- Left
- Flight hours
- 514 total · 263 in this make and model · 304 as pilot in command · 11 in the last 90 days
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N5700
- Age
- 56
- Certificate
- Private
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land
- Medical
- Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
- Seat
- Left
- Flight hours
- 1,330 total · 120 in this make and model · 1,164 as pilot in command · 2 in the last 90 days · 1 in the last 24 hours
Weather
- Conditions
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Wind
- 260° at 11 knots
- Visibility
- 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling
- 2,800 ft overcast
- Temperature
- 36 °F, dew point 28 °F
- Altimeter
- 30.00 inHg
- Observed at
- POU, 24 nm away