NYC85LA217

NTSB accident investigation · Piper J-3 · Goshen, NY · August 18, 1985

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
August 18, 1985, 18:10 local (22:10 UTC)
Place
Goshen, NY
Injuries
1 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Enroute
Aircraft
N35515Piper J-3
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
Case key
35951

From the NTSB’s public API. By law, NTSB reports can’t be used as evidence in lawsuits over the accident.

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanicalCruise - normal
Fluid,fuel - exhaustionFactor
Preflight planning/preparation - inadequatePilot in commandCause
Fuel consumption calculations - inaccuratePilot in commandCause
Forced landingDescent - emergency
PanicPilot in commandFactor
On ground/water collision with objectLanding - roll
Object - tree(s)Factor
Planned approach - poorPilot in commandCause
Airspeed - misjudgedPilot in commandCause
Distance - misjudgedPilot in commandCause

Analysis

Acft ran out of fuel while plt was returning to orange co arpt. Plt almost froze on controls when acft engine stopped running. Plt overshot emerg landing fcd and hit trees.

Aircraft

Registration
N35515
Reported as
Piper J-3
Category
Airplane
Serial number
6149
Airframe hours
3,194
Engine
Continental A-65, 65 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
Quade'S Flight School, Inc.
Last inspection
100 hour · July 18, 1985 · 15 hours before
Departed
MGJ · Montgomery, NY

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
34
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Rear
Flight hours
174 total · 20 in this make and model · 125 as pilot in command · 20 in the last 90 days

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
180° at 6 knots
Visibility
12 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
5,000 ft broken
Temperature
70 °F, dew point -0 °F