NYC87FA020

NTSB accident investigation · Cessna 182E · Fishers Island, NY · October 16, 1986

Accident · FatalField investigationFinal report
Date
October 16, 1986, 15:20 local (19:20 UTC)
Place
Fishers Island, NY
Injuries
2 fatal, 2 serious
Phase of flight
Takeoff
Aircraft
N2830YCessna 182EN3962MPiper PA-28-181
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report August 11, 1988
Report
Approved by Office Director
Case key
30468

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

On ground/water collision with objectTakeoff - roll/run
Vfr procedures - not followedPilot of other aircraftCause
Terrain condition - high vegetation
Object - aircraft moving on ground
Traffic advisory - not issuedPilot of other aircraftFactor
Light condition - daylight
Visual lookout - reducedPilot in commandCause
On ground/water collision with objectLanding - roll
Vfr procedures - not followedPilot in commandCause
Light condition - daylight
Object - aircraft moving on ground
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot in commandCause
Traffic advisory - not issuedPilot in commandFactor
Terrain condition - high vegetation

Analysis

A Cessna 182 taking off on rwy 25 collided with a Piper PA-28-181 which was landing on rwy 12. The collision occured in the intersection of the two runways. The two occupants of the Cessna were seriously injured and the two occupants of the Piper were fatally injured in the accident. Both aircraft were destroyed by fire. No radio transmission were heard from the Piper prior to landing. The Cessna pilot was heard to have transmitted his intentions to takeoff on UNICOM frequency but was not observed to make a clearing 360 ground turn prior to takeoff. High terrain prevents a pilot on the ground at rwy 25 from seeing the approach end of rwy 12. The pass'g on the Piper, who was a private plt, was documented as being removed from the left front seat of the acft. The Piper also flew an incorrect traffic pattern according to witnesses.

A Cessna 182 taking off on rwy 25 collided with a Piper PA-28-181 which was landing on rwy 12. The collision occurred in the intersection of the two runways. The two occupants of the Cessna were serously injured and the two occupants of the Piper were fatally injured in the accident. Both aircraft were destroyed by fire. No radio transmissions were heard from the Piper prior to landing. The Cessna pilot was heard to have transmitted his intentions to takeoff on UNICOM frequency but was not observed to make a clearing 360 ground turn prior to takeoff. High terrain prevents a pilot on the ground at rwy 25 from seeing the approach end of rwy 12. The pass'g on the Piper, who was a private plt was documented as being removed from the left front seat of the acft. The Piper also flew an incorrect traffic pattern according to witnesses.

Aircraft · 2

Registration
N2830Y
Reported as
Cessna 182E
Category
Airplane
Serial number
18253830
Airframe hours
3,990
Engine
Continental O-470-R, 230 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Destroyed
Fire
On-Ground
Flight
Business · Part 91
Operator
Richard Dupre, doing business as Top Line Pools,Inc.
Registered owner
Topline Pools Inc.
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · September 9, 1986 · 23 hours before
Destination
R103 · Westerly, RI
Airport
0B8 · Elizabeth Field, runway 25, 2,054 × 150 ft, asphalt

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Registration
N3962M
Reported as
Piper PA-28-181
Category
Airplane
Serial number
28-7890344
Airframe hours
1,472
Engine
Lycoming O-360-04M, 180 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Destroyed
Fire
On-Ground
Flight
Part 135
Registered owner
Yankee Airways
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
100 hour · September 9, 1986 · 72 hours before
Departed
GON · Groton, CT
Destination
OBS · Fisher Island, NY
Airport
0B8 · Elizabeth Field, runway 12, 2,850 × 150 ft, asphalt

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot, aircraft N2830Y
Age
38
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Left
Flight hours
81 total · 22 in this make and model · 35 as pilot in command · 34 in the last 90 days · 10 in the last 30 days · 1 in the last 24 hours
Role
Pilot, aircraft N3962M
Age
55
Certificate
Commercial
Airplane ratings
Multi-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 2, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Right
Toxicology
Performed
Flight hours
25,000 total · 18,000 in this make and model · 24,600 as pilot in command · 214 in the last 90 days · 5 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
Calm
Visibility
20 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
61 °F, dew point -0 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
OB8

FAA reports on this event · 2

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.