NYC87LA037

NTSB accident investigation · Piper J3 · Montgomery, NY · November 23, 1986

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
November 23, 1986, 10:45 local (15:45 UTC)
Place
Montgomery, NY
Injuries
2 uninjured
Phase of flight
Taxi
Aircraft
N58380Piper J3N7416TCessna 172
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report March 10, 1988
Report
Approved by Office Director
Case key
30561

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

On ground/water collision with objectTaxi
Object - aircraft parked/standingFactor
Clearance - misjudgedPilot in commandCause
On ground/water collision with objectStanding - engine(s) operating
Object - aircraft parked/standingFactor
Clearance - misjudgedPilot of other aircraftCause

Analysis

While taxiing in the middle of the taxiway the propeller of N58380 contacted the wing of N7416T. N58380 then rotated and it's wing contacted the wing of N7416T. N7416T was stopped alongside the taxiway when the accident occurred.

Aircraft · 2

Registration
N58380
Reported as
Piper J3
Category
Airplane
Serial number
8854
Airframe hours
2,500
Engine
Continental A-65-8, 65 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
Bruno Ferrett
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · May 1, 1986
Departed
Sussex, NJ
Destination
Montgomery, NJ
Airport
MGJ · Orange
Registration
N7416T
Reported as
Cessna 172
Category
Airplane
Serial number
47016
Airframe hours
2,883
Engine
Continental O-300, 145 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
Warren Conklin
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · November 4, 1986 · 5 hours before
Airport
MGJ · Orange

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot, aircraft N58380
Age
41
Certificate
Commercial
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 2, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Flight hours
2,880 total · 25 in the last 90 days
Role
Pilot, aircraft N7416T
Age
66
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Unknown
Seat
Left
Flight hours
500 total · 150 in this make and model · 500 as pilot in command · 15 in the last 90 days · 5 in the last 30 days

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Lowest ceiling
None

FAA reports on this event · 2

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.