NYC87LA043

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-28-161 · Pine Bush, NY · November 30, 1986

Accident · Minor injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
November 30, 1986, 11:30 local (16:30 UTC)
Place
Pine Bush, NY
Injuries
1 minor, 1 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Enroute
Aircraft
N8297YPiper PA-28-161
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report February 3, 1988
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19861130087209A
Case key
30566

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of engine powerDescent
Emergency procedure - simulatedPilot in command(cfi)
Reason for occurrence undeterminedCause
In flight collision with objectDescent - emergency
Object - tree(s)
In flight collision with terrain/waterDescent - emergency

Analysis

The CFI and student were practicing a simulated eng failure when the accident occurred. At 1700 ft MSL, during the simulated emergency descent, the CFI applied full throttle to terminate the simulation and eng pwr could not be regained. During the forced landing apch, the acft contacted trees and a piece of farm equipment. Cause of the power loss was not determined.

Aircraft

Registration
N8297Y
Reported as
Piper PA-28-161
Category
Airplane
Serial number
28-8116085
Airframe hours
2,924
Engine
Lycoming O-320-D3G, 160 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
General Aviation
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · January 16, 1986 · 70 hours before
Departed
TEB · Teterboro, NJ

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Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
22
Certificates
Flight instructor, Commercial
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 1, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Right
Flight hours
850 total · 350 in this make and model · 730 as pilot in command · 378 in the last 90 days

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
270° at 10 knots
Visibility
20 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
50 °F

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.